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BECK ON MUTATIONS
Mutations, the latest album from Beck, is yet another musical journey brought to you by one of the most compelling songwriters of today. Decidedly more stripped down in sound and approach than 1996s Odelay, Mutations features Beck playing with his core touring band on all of the songs , which range from folk to country to bossa nova. Beck is currently working on his next album in Los Angeles, where he took some time out for a brief question-and-answer session about Mutations (Geffen Records), released Nov. 3, 1998. |
Q: First off, the question most people will ask: How was making Mutations different for you? A: Most of the records Ive done, the songs have just accumulated , Ill hook up with somebody and well record a few songs and when the album, over a long period of time, glues together, all these songs come together. This was the first time Ive gone into the studio, booked two weeks and just done it. It was done really quickly. |
Q: Did you have a preconceived idea, stylistically, of what you were going to do? A: The only thing I had was that the songs were written. With Mellow Gold and Odelay, most of the songs hadnt been written. I went into the studio and built those songs piece by piece. I did everything backwards this time. I had the songs, but nobody knew them. Basically, several musicians and I set up in a room with mics. There are a couple of songs where we even did the vocal live. I was trying to get that sound where all the musicians are in each others microphones. Musics recorded very separately, very antiseptically nowadays and theres not that quality of the song being this one piece. You hear strings come in and itll sound very separate from the rest of the track, and thats something thats really prized as good quality and good sound, good engineering and recording. But we were trying to get something where you couldnt really tell what instrument was what. |
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Q: Are those string sections or samples? A: Those are actual string sections. Id never done that , it was fun. Except the way we mixed that, we turned the orchestra into more of an atmosphere, instead of an actual orchestra. I wanted it to sound like a sea cave or something. I like it when everything washes together and you cant really tell whats what. That goes back to the days when there was just one mic, so everything was being picked up by the same filter. |
I always try to leave in the mistakes , thats the interesting stuff. If somebody walked into the room while you were doing a little falsetto lead and said, "The burritos are here," thats the best part. Thats the part people will remember.
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Q: There seems to be a very California quality about the album at some points. Theres almost a Mamas and The Papas vibe on some of it. A: Thats the thing about making a record , certain things about yourself that you didnt know come out, certain tendencies. Its almost this unconscious thing. I guess it makes sense, since its coming from California. You cant help it coming out, whether you like it or not. I wanted to make a conscious effort to put some really dainty-ass music on the record. I think its time, you know? Its something we tried to convey live. The more delicate side of music is highly ignored and underrated. |
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Q: Your singings completely changed on this record. Was this a conscious decision? A: I think on the other records, the singings the last thing I did. Youve been recording for 18 hours ,okay, throw up a mic, put down a vocal. Not much is put into it; you dont even bother to use a nice mic. I think on Odelay I was singing through a guitar amp mic. This time, because I had a lot of musicians from my touring band, we tried to make it more dynamic, more like a show. There was more of an effort to make it like a performance. |
Q: The "channel-surfing" description of you doesnt really apply this time. A: I usually enjoy listening to mix tapes more than albums, but then sometimes theres that one album that has one mood through it, and when youre in that mood you just wanna hear that. Sometimes it just goes for weeks and weeks , you just wanna hear it over and over. This record does swerve around in different areas, but it has that kind of continuity. There was a good energy in the record because we did it so fast. Wed usually come in in the morning, Id show everybody how the song went, wed practice it for twenty minutes, and then Id throw up a mic and wed just put it down. By the end of the day the song would usually be done and Nigel [Godrich, co-producer with Beck] would spend about half an hour, maybe, mixing it. And the next day wed start on a whole new song. |
So it was really energizing because a lot of times making albums can get demoralizing. People can spend two months on one song. And every day youre just picking it apart. People spend days working on a high-hat sound. You can spend weeks just mixing a song. It can drag on and on, and I think creatively its really frustrating. We were confined to just two weeks because Nigel had other commitments. We knew the record was done when the car service came to take him to the airport. I was putting the vocals on the last song and the car pulled up and somebody yelled or beeped in on me, "The cars here; the planes leaving in an hour and twenty minutes." Nigels just hurrying up and then we all went and put him in the car and waved and it was like, okay, I guess thats it. There was such a good atmosphere that I think we couldve kept going and going, but then we wouldve had to come out with the triple CD. That wouldve been a little more hip-hop of us, I guess. |
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Q: You seem to have a pattern of alternating hip-hop/funk and folky records. Would you consider this a set trend? A: I think maybe its too early to tell if theres a pattern emerging. But because our shows are so energy-driven and theres a sort of broadness to the music, after the tour I wanna drop some delicate beats. This is the headphone record, the Walkman record , more for those mid-afternoon reveries we all enjoy, when were tumbling through the high green grasses or meadows. Doing this record was really good for me and the band. We desperately needed it. After working on the road for that long, you just get bottled up and need to go and do something really quick. Now Im working on a new record for next year, and Im kind of at ease. Because I know I did this record and got that out of my system. Now I can take my time with the next one. Im not in a rush to just do something, anything.
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Q: Is that a danger, that people expect some hip-hop party thing because its the new Beck record? A: This record is more of a parenthetical addition to the equation. Its not the big bottom line, like were adding it up and this is the sum total. The record Im working on now is probably about as opposite from Mutations as you can get. Its gonna be a bit more bombastic. Theres gonna be more hip-hop, but the hip-hop world is so rigid , I could never measure up to the stringent secret code, whatever it is. I dont know what you have to do to be hip-hop; all I know is, whenever I try to do something, someone says, "That aint hip-hop!" So I figure if I try to go as un-hip-hop as possible, some inverse hip-hopness will come in.
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Q: Mellow Gold is considered your first record and Odelay your second, even though youve done the indie albums. Is this your third? A: Mellow Gold is actually the last , Im working backwards. Were in random-order times anyway. People are just gonna put my CDs in a changer in random order and itll be songs from different times. Chronology is obsolete. |
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Q: Are you going to tour? A: No. Im not touring. Therell probably be some random appearances. We dont play live, we just do appearances.
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